Alisyn Camerota on Her Kids’ Reaction to Sexual Harassment Allegations Against Late Roger Ailes: They Hugged Me

Alisyn Camerota has an amazing support system in her kids.

The CNN anchor covered Working Mother‘s October/November issue, chatting with the magazine about the sexual harassment claims she made in April against her former Fox News colleague Roger Ailes, who died less than a month after Camerota went public with her allegations.

“When I decided to talk about it publicly, my daughter happened to be in the room when the interview was airing, so we watched it,” says Camerota, 51, who shares fraternal twins Francesca and Alessandra, 12, and son Nathaniel, 10, with husband Tim Lewis.

“My girls were so cute. They just threw their arms around me and started hugging me and saying, ‘Mom, we’re so proud of you,’ ” she adds. “It’s so adorable and touching to me that they have that in them already.”

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Nathaniel was supportive of his mom, too, but didn’t quite grasp the full details surrounding the situation — one Camerota tells Working Mother involved an invitation to a hotel from Ailes, the network’s former president, when she expressed interest in growing in her career.

“I overheard him telling his best friend, ‘My mom’s boss touched her butt.’ I had to say, ‘No, he didn’t, that’s not the story,’ ” she explains of her son. “I don’t think he understood the nuances of sexual harassment at the time; he thought a butt must be involved. I had to clarify for him. He understands now.”

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Though the experience in coming forward has been challenging in terms of how Camerota communicates with her children about it, she has found the positives in the form of lessons to impart — and encouraging trust and transparency in her household.

“I’m hoping to model that behavior of, ‘Let’s talk about things, even challenging, uncomfortable or unpleasant things.’ It’s working at the moment,” she says. “The message for all of us — adults and my kids — is that silence is rarely the answer, and communication can bring some light to the situation.”

“I’m happy to say they’re asking me sensitive questions, and I’m trying to answer the best way I can,” Camerota continues of her trio. “When something has happened in their world, my kids have shared it with me, even when they were sworn to secrecy.”

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The mother of three may have future journalists on her hands. Camerota — who recently released her debut novel Amanda Wakes Up, inspired by her 16-year career as a female anchor at Fox News — admits her kids are extremely interested in her career.

“They ask lots of questions about my job and think about their own future jobs and choices,” she says. “They would never think that what I’m doing is not real or important. They’ve always known how significant it is. But they have heard that CNN has been under siege in the current climate, and they are concerned.”

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And like most parents in 2017, Camerota is concerned about social media, calling herself “old-fashioned” in the sense that she prefers “real human interaction” over online relationships.

“I worry about my kids’ cyber futures, particularly in the love-life department,” she explains. “It seems their generation meets online instead of the way we did. I know I’m fighting a current, but I’m trying to prolong their interactions with people for as long as possible. It’s important to be able to speak directly to people, have real conflict and resolve it.”

Donald Glover Announces Second Son on the Way During Emmys Acceptance Speech: ‘We’re Listening to Stevie Tonight’

Donald Glover is about to add a second son to his brood!

The Atlanta creator and star took home two Emmys Sunday night for his work on the show, including the trophy for outstanding comedy actor. In his acceptance speech for the latter, he announced he and his partner Michelle — whom he thanked for loving him even with “how crazy I get” — are expecting baby No. 2.

“I want to thank my baby, my son, for just being the joy in my life,” said Glover, 33. “I want to thank my unborn son — we’re listening to Stevie tonight.”

PEOPLE spoke to Glover’s parents backstage, who replied when asked about a second baby on the way, “He said it!” They added of their son’s win, “This is unbelievable. We could not be more proud.”

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The little one on the way’s big brother is named Legend, as the actor and musician revealed at the Governors Ball in June. Glover and Michelle welcomed Legend in 2016.

“This song is dedicated to everybody in this crowd and my young son, Legend,” Glover told the crowd before performing “Baby Boy,” a track off his 2016 Childish Gambino album Awaken, My Love!

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During his speech, Glover also thanked President Trump for “making black people No. 1 on the most-oppressed list.”

“He’s the reason I’m probably up here,” said the Community alum.

Glover can next be seen as Lando Calrissian in the untitled Han Solo origin film, and will voice Simba in 2019’s live-action The Lion King.

The 69th Primetime Emmy Awards, hosted by Stephen Colbert, are airing live on CBS from the Microsoft Theater in Los Angeles.


Fashionable Family! Catherine Zeta-Jones Takes Mini-Me Daughter Carys, 14, to Michael Kors Show

Does Catherine Zeta-Jones‘ daughter have a future in fashion?

That career path might not be a shock considering how stylish Carys Zeta looked even when standing next to her famously glamorous mom on Wednesday. The twosome were on hand to attend the Michael Kors Collection show, part of N.Y.C.’s infamous Fashion Week.

For the outing, the Chicago actress wore a knee-length black asymmetrical dress with a plunging neckline and leather belt, carrying a black Christy leather clutch — all from the Fall 2017 Michael Kors Collection. She completed the look in black Roswell leather sandals from the Transeason 2017 Michael Kors Collection.

Carys, 14, opted for a pseudo-coordinating ensemble in a long-sleeved black off-the-shoulder top, yellow patterned miniskirt and heels that matched Zeta-Jones’.

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Walking in the show were famous faces like Bella Hadid, Kendall Jenner and Kate Upton — the latter making her NYFW debut.

Kors himself shared a snap of Zeta-Jones, 47, being interviewed at the event, captioning it, “Beautiful, funny, sexy and brilliant—@CatherineZetaJones, such a Michael Kors woman. -xxMK #AllAccessKors #NYFW.”

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Zeta-Jones and husband Michael Douglas are fairly private when it comes to Carys and her older brother Dylan Michael, 17, but have shared a few sweet snaps of their children and details about their family over the years.

And if fashion isn’t the career Carys chooses, it sounds like she might have another creative skill in her blood: acting!

“I know it’s going to be hard for them because they’ve got their grandfather, Kirk , they’ve got me, they have Michael,” Zeta-Jones said in February. “But they so inherently love and they’re good!”

Kelly Clarkson Jokes That She Prays for Expectant Women: Pregnancy Was ‘The Worst Moments of My Life’


You won’t hear Kelly Clarkson waxing poetic about the joys of pregnancy.

In a segment for PEOPLE’s Celeb Parents Get Real, the singer chatted about her kids Remington “Remy” Alexander, 17 months, and River Rose, 3, plus husband Brandon Blackstock‘s son Seth, 10, and daughter Savannah, 16.

And while it’s quite a full house, Clarkson doesn’t miss the time when the headcount was lower — particularly during the times she was expecting. “Anytime I see someone pregnant, I just pray for them,” she says. “ was literally the worst moments of my life.”

“I’m not kidding — I wish I were that girl that ,” adds the “Love So Soft” singer, 35. “But no. Nope. Don’t miss it. It’s as if someone was in an accident — they’re pregnant, I’m like, ‘Oh my God.’ ”

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Before she became a mom, Clarkson says she and Blackstock, whom she wed in 2013, used to go out a lot more and that she misses it — but the more homebody mentality just comes with the territory now that they have four kids.

And while Blackstock is great about taking some of the load off her hands, the American Idol season 1 winner admits she’s not the best at reciprocating the favor. “I don’t really say, ‘I got this, you go relax’ often,” she confesses with a laugh.

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The stressful parts of parenthood are balanced by some pretty hilarious ones too, though — like a recent episode where River told her mom to “piss off” during her bedtime routine.

“I was like, ‘I’m sorry, what? First of all, we don’t hang out with British people … where did you learn that?’ ” Clarkson recalls. “And she said ‘Harry Potter,’ and I said, ‘Okay, well, that’s Mommy’s fault’ — I owned it for her. I even gave her an out, you know?”

Regardless, the singer laid down the line and told River she couldn’t say the phrase again or she’d take Harry Potter away. So what did the little girl do? Mouth it instead — which didn’t quite work, but her mom appreciated the effort. “I mean, you’ve gotta respect it because she didn’t say it!” Clarkson says.

Jennifer Garner Co-Founds Organic Company Once Upon a Farm: ‘I Am Passionate About Childhood Nutrition’

Actress, mom — and now nutrition ambassador!

Jennifer Garner is joining up as a co-founder of Once Upon a Farm — a company currently offering a line of cold-pressed organic baby food and applesauce — who announced in a press release Monday that they would be expanding their brand “to grow into new categories with the goal of providing as many children as possible with the best-tasting, most nutritious and highest quality foods, using sustainable methods.”

“As a mom of three and Save the Children artist ambassador, I am passionate about childhood nutrition and making sure we are leaving a healthier and happier planet for the next generation,” Garner, 45, said.

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Adds the actress, who is mom to Samuel Garner, 5½, Seraphina Rose Elizabeth, 8½, and Violet Anne, 11, “Once Upon a Farm helps parents keep their promise to deliver the best nourishment for their children’s bodies and souls.”

Garner has teamed up with co-founders Cassandra Curtis, Ari Raz and former Annie’s president John Foraker on the company’s newest mission, telling about her inspiration behind the venture.

“I had been looking for a while to partner with an early-stage brand in the food space,” said the Mother’s Day star. “And as a mom with three kids, I have three lunch boxes to pack each day and understand the problems that must be solved with serving fresh food to young children.”

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She adds, “My mother made every single meal for me, and I have always been a big believer in staying connected to the earth, which grows our food.”

Garner is a current board member at Save the Children — and tells that, “I believe in the motto ‘How you do anything is how you do everything,’ ” explaining how the mantra applies both to her philanthropic work as well as her newest health endeavor.

“When I started with Save the Children, I was involved on a daily basis. With Once Upon a Farm, it will be the same, and I plan on being very involved,” Garner says. “More specifically, I will be a part of innovating on new products, participating in design, going on sales calls and making sure the world knows we exist.”

Mini Must-Have: All the Details on Knox Jolie-Pitt’s Dapper Gray Cardigan

He may be one of the youngest members of the Jolie-Pitt clan, but Knox Léon is well in the running for most stylish.

The 9-year-old son of Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt accompanied his mom and five siblings — twin sister Vivienne Marcheline; Shiloh Nouvel, 11; Zahara Marley, 12; Pax Thien, 13; and Maddox Chivan, 16 — to the Telluride Film Festival on Saturday to support Jolie’s new film First They Killed My Father, which she directed, produced and co-wrote.

For the occasion, Knox looked every bit the fashionable kid in dark gray slacks, black shoes and Appaman’s Shelby Button-Front Cardigan, which retails for $66.

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Hanson at 25: The Brothers Dish on Greatest Hits Album, Track by Track – and Why They’ll Always Be Proud of ‘MMMBop’

They’ve come a long way from “MMMBop” — and “MMMBop” wasn’t even close to their genesis.

In truth, Isaac, Taylor and Zac Hanson formed their band in 1992, when youngest member Zac (who is actually the third born of seven children) was only 6 years old. So while 2017 may mark 20 years of loyalty even for the most dedicated of Fansons — who first became acquainted with the towheaded brothers over the summer of 1997 during the time of their breakout album Middle of Nowhere and subsequent sold-out arena concerts, Saturday Night Live appearance, Christmas album and adorable Eggo commercial — for Hanson, it’s really been 25.

And some of those years have seen a bit more conflict than others among the Tulsa, Oklahoma-bred trio. “I actually got into an argument yesterday with Isaac, because I told him I wanted to do a project in a certain way ’cause I knew how much he would fight,” Zac told PEOPLE during a chat ahead of the Sept. 8 release of the band’s first retrospective of their work thus far: Middle of Everywhere — The Greatest Hits.

“And it was funny, ’cause it caused a fight,” adds Zac, 31. “It’s not petty, it’s just … we care, and we do have a lot emotionally invested.”

“A lot” may be an understatement. The brothers have conquered a number of adult-sized hurdles together over the past two and a half decades in a valiant, successful effort to create soul-, R&B-, rock-, blues-, Motown- (and yes, pop-) inspired music on their own terms, from breaking away from Island Def Jam Music Group and starting their own indie label 3CG Records, to traveling to Africa and using their experiences and perfectly harmonized voices to spread awareness about deep issues far outside of themselves.

They’re also all married, with a total of 12 children among them — most of whom appear in the music video for their new song “I Was Born,” the lead track off of Middle of Everywhere. And even after all that, they still found time to start a beer company and annual music festival: The Hop Jam (held in their home base of Tulsa, of course).

“My life experience has been so out of this world, I have to remind myself that what seems normal to me is not normal,” says Zac, who was just 11 when the iconic earworm “MMMBop” infiltrated the airwaves and didn’t loosen its grip for long past the then-foreseeable future.

“, my response is usually something like, ‘If you want to live an extraordinary life — if you want the chance to do something that could change people’s lives — then chances are you’re gonna miss out on something that seems ordinary,’ ” Zac adds.

One such extraordinary opportunity is that the band is now celebrating a milestone where they feel like they have something cumulative to offer that truly represents who they are and what they’ve been able to bring to the table throughout their musical ride.

“We’re really excited to be at the point of the band where we feel like we have a robust body of work that permits a ‘Greatest Hits’ collection,” says Taylor, 34. “You’re always questioning whether you should really be doing retrospectives … and 25 years in, we felt like we were finally at that point.”

“The collection that we’re about to put out is really a ‘Best Of’ ,” says Isaac, 36. “We’ve always tried to stay very forward-looking — it’s always about what you’re going to do next, not what you are doing now, not necessarily what you have done. But sometimes there are certain birthdays and anniversaries you just need to celebrate … put a couple extra candles in the cake and invite a few friends over and say, ‘Okay, we did it.’

“It’s not the full picture, but it’s a pretty good flavor of what we do. And that’s what our goal is,” he adds. “We feel like this collection is one of those things where you could say, ‘Well, if you don’t know where to start with Hanson stuff, this is a good place to start.’ ”

Isaac, Taylor and Zac shared the historical significance of many the 2-disc album’s tracks with PEOPLE, detailing the stories behind their writings, inspiration (yes, their kids played a part in some!), production and legacy — plus how Hanson’s fans have helped shape the musicians, and men, its members have become.


1. “I Was Born” (2017)

Isaac Hanson: The song “I Was Born” is about pursuing the dream. It’s about saying, “I have a vision in my mind, I have a vision in my heart, that says to me, “I want to go and do something that no one has done before.” And the great thing about that is just you living your life to its fullest, no matter what it looks like, is in some form or another that dream. But it’s also about saying, “The crazy idea is actually possible — the crazy idea is doable, as long as I’m willing to work for it.”

was actually written during a songwriting session that Taylor and Zac were a part of … the guys came back that day from that particular session and played that song and I was like, ” … I love this. This speaks to so many things that we, as a band, are all about. Whatever we do next, this song needs to be a part of it. Because this song addresses, in a lot of ways, how we feel about music and how we feel about life.”

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Middle of Nowhere (1997)

2. “MMMBop”

Isaac: Our first A&R guy, Steve Greenberg, had idea . He approached them about it, and they really liked the idea. And we, of course, knew that record — the Beck Odelay record, since they’d very famously been so intimately involved in it as producers. And they were like, “What do you guys think working with the Dust Brothers? Here’s the Odelay record.” We were like, “Uh … yeah. This is an awesome record, of course. That’d be really cool.”

We connected with the creative process, too. Them being deejays … It’s all about the groove, it’s all about songs, it’s all about mixing and matching things and them being the music nerds that they are in order to be producers and deejays. So we would sit around and talk about Motown records and the stuff that we loved the most, and we connected on that level. And I think they clearly saw that Motown, Jackson 5 influence in us, and the early R&B stuff that we really love … they really connected with us on that level too. It was a good match.

Zac Hanson: To me, the reason we play “MMMBop” is because there are still people who’ve never seen “MMMBop” . We’ve played it thousands of times, but there’s still somebody probably at almost every show who’s never seen that song, and you’ve gotta remember that … you really need to be projecting for other people.

That’s really the beauty of what we do: We get to tell stories that those who are not fortunate enough to get to be musicians in their lives … they get to take those songs and then use them to express their own emotions. And that goes along with just playing a song I love — maybe they just need that joy. Maybe it’s not about the lyric. Maybe it’s just about feeling good, and you’ve got a song that makes you feel good.

Isaac: “MMMBop” is this chameleon of sorts — “MMMBop,” lyrically, has this slightly melancholy quality to it in the verses where it talks about, “Hey, there are ups and downs in life and you gotta find the things that matter to you. Hold on to them.” And addressing important life choices as best as we could in an otherwise cheery melody.

3. “Where’s the Love”

Isaac: That song was the first that we did with our friend Mark Hudson. That was the first time that we wrote with him. One of the biggest things that changed about that song in the writing was that it was originally called “Give It Up,” and … the melody for the verse evolved a lot.  it was too happy. It needed to be bluesier and needed to have more intensity about it, because you’re asking, “Where’s the love?”

In the technical sense, it’s not a huge note shift, but the emotional shift is significant. It changes the way you hear the lyric. The bridge is a direct extension of what that melody change is. Because that bridge wouldn’t have happened were it not for the melody change, because it makes more sense melodically, you can hear the intensity and the ability to get there.

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4. “Weird”

Isaac: “Weird” is, to this day, one of my favorite songs that we’ve done over the years. In its own way, “MMMBop” kind of addresses a very similar theme as “Weird” does, but “Weird” is a much more somber and much articulation of it. “Weird” is specifically dealing with finding your place in the world: “Where do I fit? Why do I feel so odd, so out of place?”

And that had a lot to do with us being young kids, making choices to do music, which didn’t always make you the most popular person in the world. You had to make certain decisions about your life to pursue the music thing. And that didn’t always mean birthday parties and sleepovers, it meant working at the thing that you really wanted to do, even if it was a sacrifice. So “Weird” has a lot of that in it, but it’s also something I think everyone can relate to. As the lyric says, “We all feel a little bit weird sometimes.”

5. “A Minute Without You”

Isaac: “A Minute Without You” started in probably 1995. It was when I was first starting to get comfortable as a guitar player, and one of my favorite keys to play in was the key of D because it’s an easy key to play in. And I remember that particular chord progression that begins the song. At the time, when you’re a kid just learning how to play guitar, you feel like Angus Young or something. You’re like, “I’m playin’ a guitar riff, oh yeah!” It’s not a guitar riff , but it felt like, “I’m writing something unique and special, and I’m finding my own voice as a guitar player.”

The foundation of the bridge is actually what the chorus originally was. The chorus was originally, “When the minutes seem like hours, that’s when you know how much you care. And when the day, it seems so long, wanna be with you until the sun falls from the sky.” And when we came in with the idea, Mark was like, “I’m not sure that’s the best chorus you got in you. The verse is really cool and really interesting, but it sounds a little bit more like a bridge.”

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This Time Around (2000)

6. “This Time Around”

Taylor Hanson:  is the song that is truly the rallying cry that a lot of fans responded to at that point in our career — a lot of fans that went from being a fan of a band’s album to becoming a real fan: a fan that came to shows, a fan that had this relationship with the band beyond simply two or three chart-topping songs.

It was the song and the album that really solidified what we’ve seen over the last 20 years, which is that connection that is deeper than a pop hit. It has, in its musical choices, the same level of importance the song itself — the role that it played in our career. It comes out front and says, “We’re making music that we believe in. We’re making music that is not simply about writing a pop song, but continuing down a musical journey.” That song is about fighting for what you believe in, in whatever form that takes.

We knew musically that that song was a bold choice for the second record, but it was what we wanted to be doing — it pulls out gospel and soul, and it had this texture to it that was exciting to us. But in retrospect, we’ve heard a lot of fans that it was a turning point for their connection with the band.

7. “If Only”

Taylor: We met on the H.O.R.D.E. tour when we sat in with and instantly had that musical affinity for one another. Interesting thing about that song is because John Popper sits in, people assumed that the main hook part was played by John, because it’s this very fast, repetitive part. But interestingly, in the song “If Only,” the part that John didn’t play is the intro and the main harmonica hook of the song. We joked that it was too simple for John to play.

All the harmonica that’s the main hook is what I played, and then of course you hear signature soloing in the middle of the song. Which is — for us, as fans of Blues Traveler, especially in ’99 — we were just completely over the top about being able to have him sit in and play on a record.

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8. “A Song to Sing” (Live)

Taylor: That song was one of the first songs where we put in motion the theme of finishing projects with a final quiet, stripped-back track. In later albums, we finished albums with “Lulla Belle” on Underneath, “Me Myself and I” on .

“A Song to Sing” is one of the songs we talk about eternally as the message that truly represents what we do, why we do it. Which is that songs are this way of connecting, and they’re a way of articulating the craving that we all have for purpose. And that song is talking about that human condition — the fact that we all desire a sense of why we’re here and what it is that we’re supposed to do. And music is one of the few languages that actually transcends barriers, and it really does bridge the gap.

Sometimes that seeking for understanding your own place — that one song, or that one voice, or that lyric that someone’s choosing to put into the world … it can be the message or the hope that keeps you on track. It’s really that we all crave a sense of why — where are we going, why are we going there? “A Song to Sing” lays out something that we’ve experienced, both as putting a message out there with a song, and also receiving that as a fan and hearing something that affirms you and pulls you through.

Underneath (2004)

9. “Penny and Me”

Taylor: Ultimately, is really celebrating this idea that we go through life and we go on adventures, and we go on different paths, but the people and the songs and the things that become really meaningful to us — we take those everywhere with us … “Penny and me like to roll the windows down,” is like, “I love to be in the moment — I love to go places.” A lot of times, we dedicate that song to many of the fans that will travel. Because I think of it as almost a song that we’re really both singing, ’cause we’re all going places and traveling to different places and having different experiences. You bring with you all those experiences.

I was dating my wife at the time and there’s a definitely a lot of references to her, and then the three of us in our experiences as a band, what we were going through … , we fell in love with the name Penelope, and when it hit us that Penny would be the nickname for that, it definitely encouraged us to call her Penny in knowing how much that song means. Not so much that we named her for the song, but the song was something we thought of at the very beginning.

10. “Underneath”

Zac: “Underneath” is a song that remains important for us because obviously it’s the title of a record that is really iconic for our band. When we released Underneath, it was a big risk. Looking back, 14 years we made that choice. And so it seems probably, in hindsight, like it’s safer than it really was and really felt at the time.

So many of our friends who were musicians or managers, or business people in the music business were kinda going, “Really? You guys are gonna go out on your own?” I think what that song illustrates is something about our choices as a band. It talks about, “Can you really see what I’m going through?” … Not only in a business way — like, “Our fans are out there and we’re not talking to them!” — but also from a very personal, emotional way where it’s our dream since we were kids was to be this band and to make music and to inspire the next generation of musicians. And it’s not that someone is actively taking away from you, it’s worse — through apathy, it’s being taken away.

Matthew Sweet is who we wrote with, and we both took this funny risk on each other. We didn’t really have that much time to write, we didn’t know each other that well. I had never met Matthew until we showed up to write. I think Taylor had met him at a dinner , “Hey, you wanna write a song?” , “I’ve got four hours.” That’s not a lot of time to write a song. Most songs take days … but there was something really powerful that clicked. It was the first idea, really, and all of a sudden … it flew out, it kind of wrote itself. I don’t remember exactly how long it was, but I do remember that we went and ate lunch because we’d already finished the song. And that tells you, in four hours … we were probably done in two.

It’s probably part of the reason why we called the album Underneath, is ’cause that was one of the bright spots where you found a camaraderie in another musician who’d been through his own versions of our personal hell, and we wrote something beautiful together. And it said something about our band — it said something creatively about the potential of what we could do.

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The Walk (2007)

11. “Great Divide”

Taylor:  is celebrating our roots and our musical history and connected us to each other, and that’s something we bring with us everywhere. Underneath is the album that survived the process of leaving our label — we somehow created that album despite all the toxicity — but The Walk was the first record we made from scratch after starting a label. Maybe there was some angst, maybe there was some fight in us that needed an outlet, but we really felt like the things that were on our mind and in our soul to put out on that record were much more macro … bigger, broader statements beyond ourselves. They were calls to action. Anytime you put out messages that might evoke steering someone to a cause — like understanding poverty issues or disease — you have to tread lightly, because the last thing you want to do is preach and get on your soapbox.

But we felt genuinely that we were challenging ourselves to see how we fit into the bigger picture, and “Great Divide” was really, in part, about fulfilling that song. It became about us challenging ourselves to cross the divide, to cross over past just feeling something personally and then sharing what we discovered — sharing what was happening in us as we were learning and understanding these issues going on in parts of Africa, the developing world … that whole song is a question we’re asking ourselves. It says “We can conquer this great divide” but it could’ve easily been “Can we conquer this great divide? Can we do this?”

When we started the Take the Walk campaign, we never knew what it would produce — we just knew that we needed to do it. itself led us there, in some respects.

12. “Go”

Zac: “Go” is a very particular song. A dear friend had marital trouble, his wife was leaving him. I had known them, been in their wedding, and it was very personal to see friends falling apart. We have a songwriting retreat that we host … it’s at a live-in studio and we have friends and musicians fly in and we spend a week just writing songs, pairing up different groups. And this was the very first year we did it, and I came in and started talking to a couple people I was writing with, and that first line of the song was all I had but it was just so defined … I remember walking in and playing those chords and saying , and it was healing for me, personally. Like, I see that these people I care about are struggling, and this is the honesty of what it is.

Who we are, the reason we care about each other, is the same — we just put things on top of it. We put our scars and we put our dust and we put our rust … but the pipes and the lamps and the things that make everything work, it’s still the same, and maybe this message is what everyone needs to hear about relationships. It doesn’t make them easy — it doesn’t make them not fall apart, but it is true. People never change — that’s the thing that’s said a lot. When babies, we’re the same, we just discover ourselves more each year. And sometimes we become a better version of who we are, sometimes we give into our less desirable traits, but core human is the same.

13. “Watch Over Me”

Isaac:  actually started off as “Wash Over Me,” … but that lyric just didn’t ring true enough. The song is about somebody who’s struggling with … depression, for lack of a better way to say it. Someone who is trying to figure out where they fit in the world and is very desperate for help … as somebody who’s made a variety of decisions that are not the most constructive in their lives and realizes that. The song is kind of about the moment where you realize that you’ve been making decisions that were not good for you, and trying to figure out what to do about it … it’s a cry for help, it’s a prayer of sorts.

That was actually the last song that we sang in Dallas, the evening that I went to the hospital for the second time to ultimately deal with pulmonary embolism, because of a rib issue. That song was very emotional that night and actually very emotional on tour because of the context. I actually very specifically remember singing that song saying, “Please God, I don’t know what the future is right now, but I would really like some grace right about now, and I am just gonna have to give this one up to you and say please watch over me.”

Shout It Out (2010)

14. “Thinking ‘Bout Somethin’ “

Isaac: Weird Al is a longtime friend. We met Al in late ’97, early ’98. And he did a little faux video of sorts with us, where we kind of teased about Titanic … There’s a video for the song “River,” which he actually was a part of. And so we maintained that friendship for many years, and then when it came to “Thinking ‘Bout Somethin’,” we thought to ourselves, “It’d be really fun to have some kind of cameo or something like this, ’cause we’re doing this elaborate recreation of this scene from The Blues Brothers where Ray Charles and The Blues Brothers play ‘Shake a Tail Feather’ … wouldn’t it be cool if Al would be willing to play the part of Murph shaking the tambourine?”

So Tay called him up. He was like, “Hey Al, what do you think about this idea?” And Al goes, “Yeah, totally.” And Tay’s like, “Okay, so here’s the deal: We’re doing the video in like 48 hours, you wanna get on a plane?” And so it was a last-minute thing, and Al was totally into it. It was really fun and it’s one of my favorite videos we’ve ever done, and having Al in it just makes it that much better.

Anthem (2013)

15. “Juliet”

Zac: “Juliet” is a song I started writing about my oldest daughter, whose name’s Junia. I was singing to her, playing around with her name repetitively — “J-J-J,” you know. Playing with those progressive sounds, and then I started writing that song … and I couldn’t help myself, I thought, “Junia is just … is not a very common name. It’s an old, ancient Roman name.” Like how many kids do you know that have ancient Roman names? There are none.

Obviously, the most iconic Juliet is Romeo and Juliet, and then it became such a cool adventure in songwriting, because it was, “How do you pay homage to that story?” And pulling little bits of language from famous lines from Romeo and Juliet without … it shouldn’t be a gimmick. It’s not about a gimmick, it’s about connecting to something that we all understand. When you connect to something that has so much pop culture like that in an original way, you connect to people. ‘Cause so many people have a connection to that, whether they a movie of it or played it in high school or just read it as a part of literature.

But I just loved the way it turned out because it manages, for me, to be a song deeply about my daughter, but also something that any man could sing to a woman or vice versa, if you just .

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16. “Fired Up”

Zac: It’s a little bit AC/DC, it has a little bit of Zeppelin in the turnaround. “Fired Up” comes from listening to the groove — it’s a very simple message. It’s just a fight song. It’s like, “Get ready, here it comes.” When we were writing for Anthem and the idea of Anthem even before it was called that, there was this idea that we wanted to write some songs that were big songs — songs that were about pumping your fist and singing along. And when that guitar riff started to play … Isaac started playing it, and then I think it was Taylor was like, “No no no, drop the beat!” It drops the beat. And then I started playing straight over it, and it was this beautiful combination of AC/DC, Led Zeppelin … and then us being us, screaming over the top.

We connected to that anthemic feeling. It’s a side of our band that we continue to explore, with Anthem maybe being the first time that has taken center stage … a pretty legit just rock song. Like if we weren’t Hanson, people would just call it rock. That song goes on an alternative station. And it’s one of the songs, for us, that as you build this picture of a band of 25 years, you’re expressing these different sides of who you are and what you do. Like “Juliet,” “Fired Up” is not a single, but it’s a song that … you have to Hanson if you really want to see the picture of what we do — and to some extent, I think where we’re going.

Click here for the full track list from Hanson’s 2-disc collection Middle of Everywhere — The Greatest Hits, available Friday.

The band’s largely sold-out Middle of Everywhere 25th anniversary world tour continues through Oct. 27, and their second holiday album, Ooh Christmas, debuts later this year.

Touchdown! Hall of Fame Quarterback Troy Aikman Marries ‘the Love of My Life’ in California

Troy Aikman is a married man!

The Hall of Fame quarterback and Capa Mooty exchanged “I do’s” in Santa Barbara, California, over the weekend, with the retired athlete sharing a beautiful pro photo of the newlyweds in their wedding attire.

“Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. & Mrs. Aikman,” the 50-year-old former Dallas Cowboys star captioned the snap, crediting photographer Lily Ro Hernandez.

Wrote Hernandez next to a re-post of the same photo, “What an honor to document this amazing couple surrounded by their family and friends ❤️.”


The Dallas Morning News reports the pair exchanged vows in a small ceremony on the beach, followed by a reception at the Four Seasons Santa Barbara. The affair was low-key enough that the newlyweds were already back home in Dallas on Sunday.

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Aikman popped the question in June, marking the occasion by sharing a sweet photo of the couple aboard a boat, holding glasses of wine as they enjoyed a romantic outing in Lake Como, Italy.

“June 2, 2017 – A special day as I proposed to the love of my life,” the Fox lead NFL game analyst captioned the snap.

Mooty and Aikman have been dating since at least February 2016, with the retired football star regularly sharing photos of the pair out and about enjoying date nights.

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The marriage is the second for Aikman, who has two daughters from his previous relationship with former Cowboys publicist Rhonda Worthey: Alexa Marie, 15, and Jordan Ashley, 16. He often posts photos of his girls, both individually and with himself and his now-wife.

Mooty has two sons from a previous relationship.

It’s a Boy! Days of Our Lives Star Nadia Bjorlin Welcomes Second Son

Nadia Bjorlin just experienced one of the best days of her life!

The television star is a mom for the second time, her husband Grant Turnbull confirmed on Instagram on Friday.

“7 years today since I moved to America,” he wrote alongside a photo of Bjorlin and the newborn. “What a way to celebrate with my wife. What a rockstar you are my love. Welcome to the world. Viggo Sebastian Turnbull. @nadiabjorlin #theviggo”

The Days of Our Lives actress, 37, and Turnbull are also parents to newly crowned big brother Torin Mathias, 15 months. Turnbull also shared a photo on Instagram of Torin meeting his new baby brother.

“Good start! #brothers#torinthechief #viggothevirgo@nadiabjorlin #thebullboys,” he wrote.

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Little Torin “announced” his baby sibling on the way in March, sporting a “World’s Greatest Brother” T-shirt in a snap shared to his mama’s Instagram account — which also featured the family dog Molly.

“#TorinTheChief excited about his upcoming role of big brother!” Bjorlin wrote. “Baby Bull #2 debuting August 2017…. #worldsgreatestbrother #lovesofmylife #brothers #babies.”

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Viggo went past his due date, with Bjorlin using Twitter in late August to share with her followers just how pregnant she was feeling — and looking.

“You know you’re overdue when your husband looks at you & says ‘Your belly looks like something in National Geographic…’ ? #Marriage #StillPreggo #ThxHoney,” she wrote in one tweet.

Bjorlin joked in another tweet, “You know you’re overdue when 2 people ask you in the same day if you’re having twins, and then some lady in Whole Foods parking lot asked if she could touch my belly button. Umm… ok. ? #StillPreggo #Help.”

George and Amal Clooney Make Their First Public Appearance 3 Months After Welcoming Twins

Parenthood looks good on George and Amal Clooney!

The couple were all smiles Saturday at the Venice Film Festival as they arrived for the premiere for the crime comedy Suburbicon, which George directed, co-produced and co-wrote alongside his longtime collaborators the Coen brothers.

The outing marks the first time George, 56, and his human-rights lawyer wife, 39, have made a public event appearance since the birth of their twins Alexander and Ella on June 6.

Amal wore a stunning lilac gown and her hair curled up into a faux bob with an Old Hollywood feel. She accessorized with drop pearl earrings. George, meanwhile, kept things classic in a tux.

However, they haven’t been laying low in Venice. On Friday, the couple stepped out for a super glamorous dinner, with Amal looking stunning in a blue Missoni gown. Earlier in the day, George made a picture-perfect entrance at the festival, arriving in a boat (sans Amal) and posing for a photo call for his new film.

On Thursday, the couple were out on the town again for another pre-festival date night.


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While George and Amal have been busy pulling double diaper duty with their newborns — something the new dad told the Associated Press recently is “my job,” along with “walking them around a little bit” — they don’t take any of their new life for granted.

“I really didn’t think at 56 that I would be the parent of twins,” he added, advising, “Don’t make plans. You always have to just enjoy the ride.”

Part of that ride includes plenty of laughs. “I just have to clean the barf off of my tux,” George joked to the AP. “It used to be my barf but now it’s the twins’ barf. So it all works out.”

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Venice is a special place for the Clooneys. The Italian city was the location of their September 2014 wedding ceremony, held at the Aman Canal Grande Venice luxury resort in front of about 100 guests.

“George and Amal radiated love all night,” Amal’s mother, Baria Alamuddin, told PEOPLE at the time. “The wedding was so unbelievably special, it was legendary. These three days – the friends, the families, the atmosphere, everything – will stay with me all the rest of my life.”

The Venice Film Festival kicked off Thursday and runs through Saturday, Sept. 9.

Mini Must-Have: DJ Khaled’s Son Asahd’s $2,000 Gucci Suit He Wore to the VMAs – at 10 Months Old


Only the best for baby Asahd!

The 10-month-old son of DJ Khaled and fiancée Nicole Tuck stole the show at Sunday night’s 2017 MTV Video Music Awards, sporting a suit that was both stylin’ and age-appropriate, featuring a monster print.

Asahd’s entire ensemble is by Gucci. The jacket and pants retail for $1,050 and $670 respectively, while you can nab the white shirt for $260, leather shoes for $275 and navy cotton socks for $35 — a grand total of $2,290.

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Khaled presented at the VMAs and was nominated for four awards, including video of the year. Speaking to E! News, the father of one called the experience of having his son with him at the awards show “unbelievable.”

“It’s a feeling that I can’t really explain,” he said. “It’s just a joy, and to have my biggest blessing with me — I’ve never been nominated for a VMA, this is my first time. I’ve always wanted to, I’ve always made huge records … and I got nominated for four.”

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Little Asahd is already a seasoned awards-show attendee, having accompanied his dad to the Grammys in February and the BET Awards in June — where he and Gucci Mane rocked matching blue tuxes (by Gucci, obviously).

“He’s just my best friend, my son and for me, he’s like a prophet to me too,” Khaled, 41, said in June during an appearance on Live with Kelly & Ryan — Asahd’s television-interview debut. “He’s so special to me. I love this boy.”

White-Hot! Bethenny Frankel, 46, Shows Off Her Fit Frame in a Bikini During Ibiza Vacation

Bethenny Frankel is serving bod!

The Real Housewives of New York City star is currently on vacation in Ibiza, Spain, and was spotted Saturday hitting the beach in a pretty white bikini with a string bottom and off-the-shoulder, ruffled top.

Aside from a set of super-toned abs, Frankel, 46, accessorized the look with multiple bracelets and a watch, a wide-brimmed beige hat, hoop earrings, purple-tinted sunglasses and a gold necklace as she soaked up the sun.

The star has been sharing multiple photos from her sunny vacation, featuring herself in multiple swimsuits and even a peek into the local cuisine.

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“Chicken under the brick with roasted potatoes… crispy, zesty, delicious #foodporn,” she captioned a Sunday snap of a tasty-looking dish.

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Frankel’s trip comes after RHONY’s season 9 reunion episodes are currently airing in the U.S. — the second of which aired Wednesday and saw the television personality, author and Skinnygirl mogul break down in tears about the “torment and torture” she’s had to deal with “every single second” since her split from ex-husband Jason Hoppy.

In her emotional recollection, Frankel shared her feelings about the harassment and stalking charges she’s brought against Hoppy, after he was arrested in January for allegedly threatening the star at their 7-year-old daughter Bryn Casey‘s school.

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But the future Shark Tank judge is prioritizing her own health and happiness — not only through her European getaway, but in her love life as well.

“It’s more than giving it another shot,” Frankel said on Wednesday’s episode of rekindling her relationship with banker Dennis Shields. “Things had to be dealt with and sort of a gauntlet needed to be gotten through and it happened. I’m in a better place. And I’m in a better place to make a sane decision.”


Taylor Swift Is Not Performing at the VMAs but Is ‘Ready to Come Out of Hiding’ and May Make an Appearance: Source

Taylor Swift could be in attendance at Sunday’s 2017 MTV Video Music Awards.

A source close to the “Look What You Made Me Do” singer, 27, hints to PEOPLE that she may be hitting up the ceremony in Inglewood, California — where Swift and Zayn Malik are up for the best collaboration award for their song “I Don’t Wanna Live Forever (Fifty Shades Darker).”

“Taylor is very excited about her new album,” says the source. “This has been her life for the past months. She is very excited to share it with her fans. She is also ready to come out of hiding.”

If she does end up attending, the VMAs would be Swift’s first awards show appearance since the CMA Awards in November, where she presented Garth Brooks with the entertainer of the year award.

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The music video for “Look What You Made Me Do” — the newly released single off her forthcoming sixth studio album, Reputation — will debut during Sunday’s VMAs.

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Swift gave a sneak peek of the video Friday on Good Morning America hours after releasing the song, which is her first solo single in three years.

She and Malik are up against five other nominees in their VMAs category, including one for the song “Feels” by Swift’s ex-boyfriend Calvin Harris featuring Pharrell Williams, Big Sean and Katy Perry (who will also host).

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Following the release of “Look What You Made Me Do” and its accompanying lyric video, rumors circulated that the country-turned-pop songstress would be taking the stage at Sunday’s awards show. But VMAs executive producer Jesse Ignjatovic set the record straight.

“She has been on the show many times and performed with a new album coming, but not this time,” Ignjatovic told PEOPLE. “I definitely wish she was coming on and performing.”

Reputationout Nov. 10, is available for pre-order now.

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